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Post by NaOnka Mixon on Sept 9, 2014 19:51:18 GMT -5
The real person in me wishes you both sincere congratulations for making the final 2 and is happy for you. However, the Nay Nay in me, wants you both to go fuck yourselves.
Mary, I gave you the title of "my gurl", but I am officially taking that back. Instead, I think you are a dumbass and lying bitch, second only to Amanda. For instance, "Oh gosh Nay, ya know I'm still considering my options!!!11!1!1". PLEASE! Also, trying to play the victim because I wanted to vote off Hayden, while you were simultaneously makin a final 2 with Austin and saying I was going to team up with Mandy & Jt at final 5, was also really fucking annoying. Would you have drawn rocks for Hayden at the final 6, had Mandy not been a dumbass bitch? Why or why not.
Hayden, I don't have as many negative things to say about you. But that's only because, for me, it's like...who are you again? We had that one conversation (where you were boring AS FUCK) and absolutely nothing else. So why should I (as in me, NaOnka specifically) vote for some lameass frat bro who wanted nothing to do with me?
Also, for both of you, where does luck rank in the reasons why you're sitting there? If either of you rank it anywhere below the 3rd biggest factor, you will need an AWESOME reason as to why it's not so high and what factors rank above it. Where does it rank for your opponent, as well?
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Post by Hayden Moss on Sept 10, 2014 14:46:31 GMT -5
"Hayden, I don't have as many negative things to say about you. But that's only because, for me, it's like...who are you again? We had that one conversation (where you were boring AS FUCK) and absolutely nothing else. So why should I (as in me, NaOnka specifically) vote for some lameass frat bro who wanted nothing to do with me?" First off, I'm sorry we didn't get to talk much. You're a hilarious person, and I wish I had been around more to talk. That's totally my fault, and I'll take the blame for that. Why should you vote for me? Because I'm not a "dumbass and lying bitch" like some people. I never screwed you over, never lied to you, and never tried to trick you. I let Mary take care of all that, because if she was willing to do all that shit instead of me, then it was in my best interest to let her go ahead. "Also, for both of you, where does luck rank in the reasons why you're sitting there? If either of you rank it anywhere below the 3rd biggest factor, you will need an AWESOME reason as to why it's not so high and what factors rank above it. Where does it rank for your opponent, as well?" Luck is honestly my second biggest factor for being here, and I feel it probably ranks that high for everyone in this game, whether good or bad luck. I think tribe selection had a lot to do with it, because if I was stuck on Tocola, and had gone on the losing streak in the beginning (which I feel like was probably because of some inactives), I don't know if I'd be here right now. Thank for the question girl!
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Post by Mary Sartain on Sept 12, 2014 2:44:40 GMT -5
~ Mary responds for Nay ~ Mary, I gave you the title of "my gurl", but I am officially taking that back. Instead, I think you are a dumbass and lying bitch, second only to Amanda. For instance, "Oh gosh Nay, ya know I'm still considering my options!!!11!1!1". PLEASE! Also, trying to play the victim because I wanted to vote off Hayden, while you were simultaneously makin a final 2 with Austin and saying I was going to team up with Mandy & Jt at final 5, was also really fucking annoying. Would you have drawn rocks for Hayden at the final 6, had Mandy not been a dumbass bitch? Why or why not. ouch. i guess i deserved that. yes, there were times i lied to you, i'm not gonna pretend i didn't. but i didn't lie to you just for giggles. if i was going to do that, i wouldn't have taken the time to later pm you and let you know that i wasn't going to vote with you. i sent you that because i respected you and wanted to be honest with you. so if i said "oh i'm considering my options" i did actually sit down and think to myself what the best move was going to be. i came in to win, and so every round i had to weigh out for myself, what would be best? would a jury respect me for keeping you and austin around, or would they say, "oh, well mary kept nay and austin around, obviously they must have played her for a fool!". on the other side of that coin, would they think i was the third wheel to hayden and jt and claim i made a bad move by letting the two of them stay together? i always saw there being potential pros and cons for every route i could take, and i was always considering changing things up. i don't really know what to say about final six, honestly. i was just trying whatever i could to keep my threesome from getting broken up. i knew you guys wanted hayden gone and had some great reasons for wanting him out, but for me it would have basically ended my game. let's be real, you would have killed anybody against a jury, and austin would have done a killer job too. you guys had the underdog comeback story going, you were social with a lot of people, and you were good at challenges. i loved you guys, but if i wanted to win i had to bust that up, that's just the facts of the game. and based on everything i knew about the final six and the people involved i knew my odds of being able to do that were much much better keeping hayden than keeping amanda. so i tried to do whatever i could to see if i could make that happen without it going to a revote. but, having said that, would i actually have drawn rocks over it? not a chance. at that point hayden was basically just showing up and voting, and hadn't bothered talking to me in several rounds. why would i risk 50/50 odds of going home for that? even if i did survive rocks, it would have been me and hayden against you and austin, with amanda as swing vote, and me and hayden having just tried to vote her off. that would be an awful position to be in. on the other hand, if i just flipped and voted out hayden, it would basically be the same sucky situation but there would be no chance of me going home in sixth. either way i would be losing someone in my threesome and winding up on the wrong side of the numbers, so it would make way more strategic sense to skip rocks and take the guaranteed final five, then try to win my way to the finals from there. i hate to say it, but i think luck was probably the biggest factor in shaping this final two. i view luck as something happening to benefit you that you could not possibly control or make happen, and the fact is that despite all of the plotting and scheming that my threesome did, our games would have been completely unraveled at the final six if amanda hadn't self-voted. we were incredibly lucky that that happened, and there's no way we can take credit for that. maybe i still would have won challenges and managed to get myself here, but it would have been in a very different context, and probably with you or austin as an opponent. so for me being here in the position that i'm in, luck was a huge factor, it affected every single thing that happened from the final six onwards, and i can't say that my strategy or challenge strength got me here more than that one lucky moment did. amanda self-voting would never happen in a real season, and even here if she had bootlisted a vote in advance or texted in a vote, or anything of that sort, that round would have gone very differently. it would have been a tie, hayden would have been toast in the revote, so in that sense i think that luck was a much bigger factor for him. jt and i would have been at a huge disadvantage and would probably have gone home next, but hayden could never have survived that round except for blind luck. the only reason our threesome stayed together is because we got incredibly lucky there, and it'd be silly to try to deny that. thanks for the questions, nay. i hope that you don't still see me as this lying bitch dumbass and we can be gurls again someday when this is all over. if not, well, i'll totally understand that.
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Post by Mary Sartain on Sept 12, 2014 2:54:45 GMT -5
i just wanna respond to this, because i think it's kinda ridiculous. hayden's talking trash about me being a liar, but he has lied a bunch of times. he lied even when everybody knew what he was up to. yeah, maybe you could say that his point is he never lied to you or tried to trick you. it's easy to avoid doing those things when you don't ever talk to someone. i have a chair in my kitchen, and it's never lied to me or tried to trick me, but that doesn't mean it's good at survivor.
hayden's whole thing has been to try and sell like it was some big great strategy to sit there riding coattails and watching us make everything happen. i don't think that's a strategy at all. i see this game as kind of being like the Trump Tower. sure Donald Trump's name is on the building, but someone else built it. in their own way both people contributed to the building, but if you had to choose the person who did more to get that building where it is, would you pick the guy who paid some money then left and played golf, or would you pick the guy who spent days and months at the construction site making sure that everything was getting put in the right place? i think it's pretty clear, personally. you can write all the checks you like but if nobody actually shows up and builds the building it's never gonna get built.
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