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Post by sarita on Sept 9, 2014 14:45:08 GMT -5
Congrats final 3!!
wait...
I mean Final 2! Congrats final 2 well deserved blah blah lets go to questions because noone cares about your shit Sarita!
Mary You are nice sweet girl! I loved talking with you...well until Trish was voted out because then you doesnt cared anymore lol
You won last challenge and except that you did nothing just voted with majority for my opinion. If I am wrong just prove it! I will be glad!
The questions for you is how hard was to choose between Hayden and JT and if you think that you have better chance with Hayden then you would have with JT.
Also I would love to know if you think that Nay Nay and Austin made mistake when they didnt voted with me and Bubba (that round when Bubbu was voted out) just tell me your opinion about that round. If it was smart or dumb decision what they made.
Hayden!!
The hottest guy in this game right after Erik/Austin and JT! I love you! You was so cuteeee!
I would love to ask you if you think Mary made great decision to takes you to final. Also I would love to see some of your moves! Show me what you did! lol
For both bitches
A)))))I would love to ask you why YOU eliminated me. I mean I dont want to hear "Sarita everyone wanted vote you so I goes with majority" thats not what I want to hear from person who is fighting for my vote. I would love to know why YOU decided to vote me. 1) I wasnt good in challenges 2) Noone had really strong ally with me So I want to hear the reason! :-P Seriously look at me ....
Do you really think I would won?
B))))))))) Who do you think will win this game and why?
C)))))) What does it take to be the winner of games like this?
D)))) How are you going to make sure that you are that winner?
E))))) What strengths do you have in playing ORGs? What are your weaknesses?
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You can be creatie with answers.
Example -
C)))))) What does it take to be the winner of games like this? I would have choose this videoclip -
Because this part of the song is best answer for this question (my opinion)
"You gotta be bad, you gotta be bold, you gotta be wiser You gotta be hard, you gotta be tough, you gotta be stronger You gotta be cool, you gotta be calm, you gotta stay together"
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Good luck both of you <3 Stay calm and play hard! haha
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Post by Mary Sartain on Sept 9, 2014 22:42:41 GMT -5
~ Mary responds for Sarita ~ Mary You are nice sweet girl! I loved talking with you...well until Trish was voted out because then you doesnt cared anymore lol hey girl i dont really know what you mean about this because i did talk to you a lot of times after trish got voted out especially the round bubba left and you were talking to me about working together. i liked you alot and i wanted you to get farther and help me bust up the connection between jt and naonka but you were so stuck on doing what you wanted to do and you didnt seem to want to trust me so i really could not do anything about it.
haha well babe i love you alot but i do think you are really really wrong about that! for starts i won immunity four times it was not just the last challenge.
there are no badass mary gif so i did ashley instead but on top of that i did not just vote with majority every time. i was always working my social game but i was real sneaky about it. not someone who just went with majority and did whatever everybody wanted. sure sometimes there were votes where targets were obvious and there was not a lot of discussion that needed to happen but there were a lot of times i was the one who pushed majority towards people like eliza and trish and bubba to make things happen the way i wanted them to go down. i was setting up for the trish vote a long time in advance because it knew it would be a huge move to get my threesome in majority, so i was working towards making that happen and getting na and austin's trust so it wouldn't backfire, and it went down just about perfectly even though bubba tried to fight it. i think it is easy to think i wasnt running things because i was very quiet about it. it wasnt always not obvious because i would talk to jt and jt would talk to na and austin, so then it would look like jt was calling the shots when really it was me. but remember babe just because you dont see something at first does mean it is not there!
i think the best proof of this was when i got the idol. i was first to figure out the password and i got it in my confessional. but nobody knew i had it because hayden went and bragged about us getting it in the thread even though the idol was totally mine. he and jt both asked me to play it on him and i chose not to on purpose because i didnt want him or jt stealing the credit for it, and i wanted to show that i was making my own decisions and doing what was best for me not what was best for them. i was okay to go utr about my strategy a lot of times because i knew i was a big challenge threat and that if people knew i was also playing a good social and strategy game that i would get the target. if people knew i was playing a hard social game they would have taken me out early and i would not have had a chance to get here.
it was a really hard decision for me. hayden and jt were both really good friends to me and i liked them both alot. but when i figured out they were lying to me and pming me during the challenge to try and make me fall i was really hurt by that.
song for how i felt about that:
i never wanted to say this, you never wanted to stay i put my faith in you so much faith, and then you just threw it away
even though i understand why they both did it and i know they wanted to win i still kinda hoped that they would value me enough not to treat me that way. so in that case i felt like i was choosing between two of the exact same person because both of them lied to me and both of them betrayed my trust to try and take me down. so i had to make a difficult choice. would i keep hayden and stick to my end of the deal even though he lied to me or would i take jt and maybe have a better shot?
i think i probably have a harder chance against hayden. as someone who has played with him the entire game i do not think he made many moves and that he could not have gotten here if it wasn't me for me and jt. we ran interference for him all the time, when he would not be around or be hard to get ahold of, we always wound up being the ones to talk to na and austin and make those other connections. but i do think he makes my job here harder because he is a smooth talker. he didnt take charge and make moves, so he didn't have the same risk of ticking people off or making them mad. i also think that alot of the jurors who might not like things i did would probably see jt as having done similar things, so i would probably have had a better shot taking him cause our games were so similar. but i took hayden anyway because i do think that my game was solid. if i win this game, i want it to be because the jury sees that i played a strong physical social and strategic game, not because i was the lesser of two evils.
i think it was a fair decision for them to make, based on what i know of their situation. i think you could say it was probably dumb to give majority to a solid three of rheali, but if they had voted jt out then they would have had some good power, but they would have put themselves in another difficult situation. they would have betrayed me and then they would have to worry about me and hayden coming after them, and because amanda's activity was hard to predict it was really likely they would have been forced into a final four with you and bubba, and with bubba being such a boss at challenges it would have put them at a disadvantage, so it was a pretty big risk for them to take.
on the other hand if they stuck with us, they had agreements with both me and jt to look out for each other, and na had the idol clue and could have found it at any point. by voting off bubba they had a good chance of winning immunities for themselves, getting the idol, and two potential allies who would have helped them out. and, even failing that, they still had a great chance of flipping amanda at final six and probably would have forced a tie if she had been around to vote. so in that sense i think they probably made a good strategic play there because they had three great options to make sure they had a 2-1 majority going into the final three together, a very good chance at getting the idol, and a great shot at winning if either of them made the finals.
so ultimately i think they had a more guaranteed shot of final four if they had stuck with you and bubba, but they had a great shot at final two or one by voting him off and keeping their options open. it's definitely the move i would have made in their situation.
for me there were a lot of things that went into that decision. i had come to you the round bubba left and started talking to you about possibly making an alliance because i knew that na and austin had probably made the same promises to jt that they were making to me, and i wasn't sure i could trust hayden and jt not to turn on me later. but you were so hardcore that i was going to pick you guys off and that it wasn't smart for you to take out bubba. so for me, i had no way to know if you would stick with me over hayden and jt or na and austin, because if you thought it was smarter to go against me you might do that. so for me it was totally a strategy thing. if i had voted out someone else it would have weakened my position, so you were a bigger threat to keep around because you could have wrecked all the stuff i had carefully built.
plus you were smokin and i wanted to be the sexiest girl left on the beach :x
oh of course i think you could have won. i have played with you before and i know that you are a very underrated threat player and you can do a lot of damage in games when you put your mind to it. i don't think that this was one of your strongest showings, because i've seen you be a lot more dominant physically and socially in games like the island or states georgia, but i think if you had focused yourself and played a few things differently you could have been a huge contender for the win.
i think that that entirely depends on what the jurors value. i see this final two as being basically the same as Tony and Woo in cagayan. Woo played a good game and did not offend people, but his game was very generic. he didnt make people angry but at the same time he did not take charge and everybody else kinda made moves and plans for him, there were a lot of rounds where all he did was show up and vote. a lot of times jt and i or na/austin/i would wind up making the plans and strategies and we would just kind of let hayden know what was up, and one of the big reasons he got targeted at final six was because he did not put effort into social connections the way that jt and i both did. Tony, on the other hand, stepped up and made his own moves and was a much bigger player, but he also sometimes did things that other people did not like. so people might look at that and say well, mary was strong but she was a bit shadier, and maybe i don't like the way she did this thing or said that thing, so they might want to vote elsewhere because they don't approve of that kind of game, so it's hard to tell. i would like to say that i will win it, but i was also pretty surprised at some things you and bubba said about how you viewed my game, so i think that hayden could definitely take it. if he wins it will probably be because he was less sneaky or because people want him to win his first ORG, but if voting comes down to who played harder (even if they did screw up some stuff) i think that i probably have a good shot at winning.
a lot of luck for sure. you can be the best challenge player around but you are never gonna win every challenge, and you can have the best strategies but people are not necessarily gonna go with it, you can use your skills you have to the best you got but luck will always play a big factor! second to that i would say is charm. it is important for people to like you and want to work with you and to wanna vote for you in the end. challenge skills are also good cause if you have them you can save your bacon and win immunity when everything else fails! strategy is another great thing to have cause you gotta have plans and know how to get yourself ahead. i think every game is gonna require a different combo of those things in different amounts but i think those are the main things that it takes to win.
lol well i have been doing my best to make sure of that from day one. all game i have done the best i could to play hard and to make connections with people and make the smart decisions to get myself ahead and put myself in a spot where i could win the game. and i did do a good job of some things, i won a lot of challenges and found the idol, and nobody ever voted against me even once. (well except my stupid self vote at final seven :x ) but even with that stuff, i think i hurt some people's feelings and annoyed some people with my actions, so i should have done better in those departments and tightened up that aspect of my game quite a bit.
well i am good at challenges, for sure. i also think i am good at coming up with plans and strategies, and at showing people why they should listen to what i have to say. one big weakness obviously is that my typing style probably makes me seem dumb and it's hard for me to figure out the words to explain myself here. i'm also crazy gullible a lot of the time and it's really easy to lie to me and make me believe things. my biggest weakness though is that i have a hard time figuring how people are perceiving me, and that is something that's true in orgs and in my real life as well. in some games i have been told that i don't spend enough time getting to know people on a personal level and all i do is talk game, but in this one it went kind of the opposite way! some people think because i took the time to get to know people and be friendly to them it makes me seem fake. for me, i feel like i had genuine connections with the people in this game and i really did like them a lot, so it's too bad that people feel like they didn't mean that much to me, because they totally did. and i guess it seems like i am lying even when i am not so that kind of sucks. so knowing how to show myself in a way that people will understand, that is something i definitely want to work on. thanks for the questions sarita! let me know if there is anything you want more details on.
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Post by Hayden Moss on Sept 10, 2014 14:00:41 GMT -5
Hey Sarita!!!! Thanks for your questions! "I would love to ask you if you think Mary made great decision to takes you to final." Honestly, I think Mary made a decision with her heart instead of her head. She compares this final to Woo and Tony in Cagayan, which I think is accurate, but not in the way she's presenting it. Because Mary made a decision to take the person she way loyal to, even though they were a bigger threat, rather than take a person who some people might see as an easy win. So no, I do not think Mary made a great decision at all, at least looking at it from her point of view. I guess from my point of view, it was the best decision possible "Also I would love to see some of your moves! Show me what you did! lol" Well, my game was a big, flashy, "BLINDSIDE EVERYONE" type of game. A lot of it was staying under the radar but above the chaos, which is why it seems like I didn't do much this game, when really I was very involved. I think my biggest move of the game was my decision to vote out Austin at final 4. As he stated very well, if I had voted with him, and JT went home in the tie-breaker, I basically would have had a guaranteed spot in the final 2. So, it seems like a no brainer to vote with him, right? But I didn't. And that's because I trusted the alliance I had made. I was extremely confident in both Mary and JT, and the bonds I had built with the both of them, so I decided to take the risk that night and vote with my alliance. And, seeing as I'm here now, I believe that risk paid off. "A)))))I would love to ask you why YOU eliminated me." As far as I know, you were one of the few people to side with Bubba during the two votes before that, which already cast you aside from the group. But on top of that, you were a very sneaky player. Before that vote, you and me and several conversation where you tried to convince me someone in my alliance wasn't as loyal as I thought. The way you went about it, saying you had screencaps that you could show me, but not actually showing them to make me paranoid, was just so sly. Once I snapped out of it and realized what you were doing (I hope that's what you were doing anyway ) I knew you had to go. Cause if you could make me question my alliance like that, you could definitely make other people question it too. "B))))))))) Who do you think will win this game and why?" I have complete confidence that I will win. That may come off as cocky, but that's how I truly feel. I honestly believe I've played a better game than Mary, and that I deserve the title of Sole Survivor. "C)))))) What does it take to be the winner of games like this?" Adaptability is probably the best skill a survivor can have. Being able to adapt to the team your own, the challenges you face, and twist thrown at you is essential. Throughout this game, I have adapted to what I need to do, and have made it through, without having to depend on immunity, almost unscathed. "D)))) How are you going to make sure that you are that winner?" I'm going to give completely honest answer during this FTC, and do my best to show people the game I've played. I honestly believe,that if people can see the game I've played, and what I've done to get here, and compare me to Mary, they will decide the best decision is to vote for me. "E))))) What strengths do you have in playing ORGs? What are your weaknesses?" My strengths are my ability to connect with people, being active enough to participate in challenges, and, as Mary herself said, being a "smooth talker". My biggest weakness is defintely is that I didn't always have enough time to talk with everyone, and I feel like I missed out on getting to know some wicked cool people I think that's everything! Thanks again for your question, let me know if I missed any
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Post by sarita on Sept 13, 2014 6:26:53 GMT -5
Hayden I would love to know more about this. "Once I snapped out of it and realized what you were doing (I hope that's what you were doing anyway ) I knew you had to go." Also I was telling truth that someone in your ally isnt that loyal. It was Amanda. I had convo but didnt knew how to make screen on mobile. I told you if I remember. Also yea I was a little bit sneaky when we were talking I wanted make chaos. Sad it didnt worked.
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Post by Hayden Moss on Sept 13, 2014 23:18:14 GMT -5
hahaha well shit! I thought you were lying to me, and were maybe trying to get me to turn against one of my allys. Either way, I figured you were saying all that to me to cause some chaos, so when I realized you were a smart enough player to try that, knowing it would take attention off of you, I knew you were too sneaky to keep around.
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