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Post by Jeff Probst on Sept 7, 2014 19:06:53 GMT -5
Mary - Congratulations on winning the Final Immunity Challenge! How does it feel to have one such a crucial Immunity, and what will you be basing your decision on tonight? Hayden and JT - The power tonight is completely in Mary's hands, and one of you will get to sit next to her at the Final Tribal Council to face off against the jury. This is your final opportunity to convince Mary why it should be you. Plead your case to her in this thread. The voting deadline for Mary is Monday, September 8th at 8:00pm EST, however once if she votes sooner the votes will be revealed sooner. As you already know, voting is to be done in your thread titled "Voting History" using the parchment below. Good luck! 
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Post by J.T. Thomas on Sept 7, 2014 20:16:00 GMT -5
First off i want to congratulate Mary for ty harding the challenge and killing our times. I also want to state that If you hadn't have won it would have been Hayden and me in the finale 2. We have had that deal since day 1. Also nether of us would have a chance against you in the finales. I want you to take whoever you want but i just want you to take this in to consideration.Who do you think you would be able to beat the guy that everyone likes, never lied, won challenges,and has never been a target or me the one that pissed everyone off, has lied to everyone, never won a challenge, and has been a target a many tribals.
thank you for the time to read this and take it into consideration.
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Post by Hayden Moss on Sept 7, 2014 20:33:27 GMT -5
Congrats Mary! I won't make this too long, because I imagine a player as good as you has already made they're decision. I'll say this; while I don't agree with everything JT has said, I do agree with this: You will win against whoever you are up against, especially after that last challenge performance  So you can choose whoever, and neither of us, well, I won't have hard feelings anyway. But just know that I would love be next to you in the Final 2. And also know that, had I won, I would have taken you to the end, as per our agreement early on in the game. I mean that. Thanks to you both for a memorable first Survivor ORG!  |
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Post by J.T. Thomas on Sept 7, 2014 21:44:21 GMT -5
Don't believe what hes saying Mary. He and i have been planing on making finale 2 since the first night. He told me that you asked him during the challenge to try and figure out my time so you beat me. He and i then my the lie that my internet went out early on that way you don't try so hard (however you still did). And Hayden if Mary confirms you never told her that lie then i lost of your trust and im voting Mary to win.
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Post by J.T. Thomas on Sept 7, 2014 21:50:01 GMT -5
  And if you don't believe me here's proof. |
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Post by Hayden Moss on Sept 7, 2014 21:57:45 GMT -5
Look, dude, if you want to drag up conversations we've had into this fine, whatever. There's no real way I can prove that I've been lying to you and telling Mary the truth, or vice versa. I could just as easily have been saying all that to you as BS when really my loyalty is to Mary, and the opposite is true. I can't prove either one, so I'm not gonna sit here and try.
The only thing I am gonna say though, is that I don't like it when someone "swoops down so low that he posted a man to man conversation that is supposed to be private.".
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Post by austin on Sept 7, 2014 22:38:43 GMT -5
*Looks at whole situation*  |
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Post by Mary Sartain on Sept 8, 2014 0:40:24 GMT -5
well guys this is definately a tough decision and youve both given me alot to think about. i wanna ask you guys some stuff about this round just so i understand the situation better.
hayden if you were really gonna take me to finals why did you agree to pass on the lie from jt? i would have taken you because of our deal so you had nothing to gain from telling me that cause you would have been in finals regardless. that makes me think that you really did want to go to finals with him, cause if you wanted to go with me you why wouldn't you tell me the truth and help me beat him? you would have doubled your chances to get him out and have our two be the finals. so why should i take someone who lied to me before and seems to be lying now?
jt when i talked to you today you lied to me even after i told you that your story didnt make sense. i knew you were not being straight with me and you continued to lie to me after i gave you a few chances to come clean and be honest. so same question to you, why did you keep lying?
oh and i will confirm that he passed on the lie but he told it completely different from you. he said you said your mom came in and distracted you so when you told me today you lost cause your internet broke i knew immediately one or both of you was lying. idk if he got it wrong on purpose to screw with you or whether he couldnt remember what he was supposed to tell me you will have to ask him about it.
i havent made my choice yet so if theres anything else you wanna say to convince me you still got time!
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Post by J.T. Thomas on Sept 8, 2014 5:38:57 GMT -5
Hayden it's obvious you didn't want Mary to win because why would you have told me about how she asked you from my time then gave her the lie saying my mom distracted me (witch this how i really lost,My mom lost her phone and made me go look for it). I'm only posting the conversation because you said lets agree that we can do whatever we want to convince Mary so i did. You should stop the lie cause we all know you wanted to go to end with me and not Mary. Your just saying whats she wants to hear.
Mary i knew right away that i Knew you know i lied to you about my time. I don't really know why i tried to keep the lie. It was more to just keep messaging you and trying to distract you. I never wanted to lie to you in this game but i had to if i wanted to make it to the end with Hayden witch was are plan this hole game.Also Mary just think there is only 2 people in this game that has made it to this point playing every day together and thats us so shouldn't you see fit that we last the last couple days together.
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Post by J.T. Thomas on Sept 8, 2014 5:47:36 GMT -5
I will not be back home till like 6:00 so if don;'t post thats why.
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Post by NaOnka Mixon on Sept 8, 2014 7:44:02 GMT -5
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Post by Hayden Moss on Sept 8, 2014 12:32:26 GMT -5
Alright, time to clear the air about a few things. On day 1, me and JT formed an alliance. We were the most active at the time, and we were both newish players. So, we formed an alliance that, at the time, had final 2 in mind. Keep in mind, this is my first time playing and ORG, so I wasn't sure how to react to certain things, and just went along with the idea of Final 2. As time went on, I got to know other players, and, quite frankly, I liked them more than JT. I wasn't about to go to him and say, "no more allaince", but like, I wasn't too happy in who I was aligned with. Eventually you approached me with the idea of working together, the 3 of us. And I was so relieved. And when YOU first stated that it would be better for the 2 of us to be sitting in the end together, rather than JT because he would be easy to beat, I was elated. I was so happy to work along someone who I'd be happy to sit next to at the Final Tribal Council. And from that moment, when you suggested the idea of going to the final 2 together, I had changed my mind, and knew where I wanted to go. However, I couldn't exactly explain that to JT. There was no way I could tell him, "Final 2 is off, I'm with Mary". He would have probably flipped on us and gone with NaOnka and Austin instead. So, I had to appease him. I told him final 2 again and again, always saying things like "Mary will beat us", just in case he won immunity at the end, so he would take me At the very least, if me or you won, he would still give me his Jury vote. As for the lie. I fully admit it. I wanted you to lose that challenge. But not because I didn't want you to go to the end. Think about it Mary. You've won 4 individual immunity challenges. 4!!!! That's insane! I knew that for me to have any time of strong case as to why I should receive Jury votes, I would need another win. 3 to 2 sounds a lot better than 4 to 1. So, I told you a lie, with hopes that you would not do as well, and I would have immunity, making my case at the end stronger. Look, Mary, theres no real way I can prove that what I'm saying to you is true and what I've said to JT is not. You just have to trust me. You won't regret it if you stick true to the promise we've made to each. I can promise you that. |
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So you can choose whoever, and neither of us, well, I won't have hard feelings anyway. But just know that I would love be next to you in the Final 2. And also know that, had I won, I would have taken you to the end, as per our agreement early on in the game. I mean that.
